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PUBLISHED ON: April 24, 2003
TAGS: Islam

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I wanted to contribute a response to your
inquiry concerning the growth of Islam in Britain.

I am an American, currently resident in the UK, with professional
research experience in matters involving the Middle East.
Statistics clearly infer that over the past 20 years Islam has
been the fastest growing religion in Britain.

The largest mosque in Western Europe is situated in London’s
Regent Park, and there is an Islamic university alongside. In
1945 there was one mosque in England, in 1950 there were 25, in
1960 there were 80, in 1976 there were 200, etc. Muslims here in
Oxford were finally given permission to establish a mosque a few
years ago, and it is located near where I live.

Within the past couple of years in one part of Birmingham one has
been able to hear above the urban din the electrically amplified
calls to prayer of a Muslim muezzin, just like in cities in N.
Africa and the Middle East.

In one sense these facts are terribly disconcerting. When one
passes through the English countryside it is the spires of the
parish churches which are most prominent above all the villages,
yet in recent years the abandonment of church buildings because
of disuse has been a topic of much concern. One thinks of
England, and one thinks of a *Christian* nation. The imprint of
Christianity ÿis everywhere. ÿLast Saturday I attended a memorial
service in the University Church for a don who died last ÿsummer,
and ÿthe ÿparticular congregation was predominantly ÿagnostic ÿor
atheistic, but ÿthe service itself was ÿChristian ÿthrough ÿand
through…a tradition.

England is an Islamic target. During an international Islamic
conference in London in the late 1970s the keynote speaker said,
‘If we can win London for Islam, it won’t be hard to win the
whole Western world.’ But all this evidence is only part of the
picture. Muslims are not noticed proselytising here…but, then,
Muslims do not generally proselytise the way evangelical
Christians do. *Jihad* means ‘struggle’ rather more than ‘war’,
and *influence* can be part of it.

If Muslims are able to induce ecumenical attitudes in Western
Christians, it can prove advantageous for them. You may be sure
you will not encounter any reciprocal fair-mindedness in Saudi
Arabia, much less in Iran. The influence of the oil and markets
of Muslim countries has been awesome. This has however shifted
with developments in international affairs. Oil lost its sway.
Terrorism went too far. Britain and the rest of the West shifted
their perspectives considerably. It must also be said that the
growth of Islam in Britain has mainly been due to large numbers
of Muslims moving  here, rather than through many
converts…though there have been, unhappily, conversions (Cat
Stevens, the singer and composer, is a devout Muslim now).

Finally, if you are in Washington, DC, you should take note of
the 160 ÿft. high minaret above the mosque of the Islamic Center
on Massachusetts Ave. And consider also the alarming growth of
the Black Muslims in our country, the USA, and their links to the
most radical Islamic nations.

Read the Koran. ‘Allah’ is demonic, and has NOTHING to do with
God. But Muslims in our midst are not to be feared or hated. We
must prayerfully, confidently, show them the Love of Christ, and
speak the Truth to them without compromise.


Greetings, I appreciated your words of encouragement and

Islam ÿis a formidable seducing spirit and a murderous one in the
world ÿtoday…and ÿno evidence is lacking in ÿsupport ÿof ÿthese
conclusions. ÿI empathize with some of the testimonials of others
which ÿpreceded my words about the threat of Islam to the UK; ÿÿI
would ÿagree ÿwith ÿthem that encounters with ÿunbelievers ÿ(i.e.
people who have no faith in any religion) ÿoften seem more common
and ÿproblematic ÿthan confrontations with Muslim ÿproselytising,
etc. ÿÿBut whatever Muslims may seem to have in common with us is
attributable ÿto the fact that Muhammed selectively borrowed ÿhis
values from Judeo-Christian revelation.

This ÿinfers ÿwhat it is that makes Islam one of ÿhistory’s ÿmost
evil systems: ÿmost of the other so-called ‘great religions’ ÿare
not ÿknown to have originated amongst peoples who ‘exchanged ÿthe
truth ÿof ÿGod ÿfor a lie’; ÿthere’s no evidence that ÿBuddha ÿor
Confucius, ÿfor instance, ÿever knew the truth of God; ÿprimitive
tribes around the planet have variously created and developed all
manner of unusual and imaginative religious systems; but Muhammed
KNEW Christians and Jews, ÿhe was also exposed to the Old and New
Testaments, ÿand the religion satan spawned through him was, ÿÿin
other words, a Judeo-Christian heresy from its inception.

The ÿspiritual ÿbondage ÿof Islam is ÿtremendously ÿsinister ÿand
strong. ÿÿIslam ÿis ÿno ÿless ÿdevoted ÿto ÿworld ÿconquest ÿthan
Communism. ÿÿAnd ÿIslam is very, ÿvery cruel. ÿAs ÿthe ÿhistorian
Toynbee ÿonce ÿput it, ÿwhile believers in Jesus and Buddha ÿhave
sometimes ÿwaged ÿmurderous, ÿunjust wars in the names ÿof ÿtheir
religions, ÿwhen they did it they were not following the examples
of the founders of their respective faiths; ÿbut, ÿhe said, ÿwhen
Muslims ÿdo ÿit they follow the example of Muhammed ÿhimself…he
wiped out whole communities of peoples who resisted him, allowing
debased ÿsensuality, ÿpillage and slave-taking as enticements ÿto
his followers.

All unbelievers are equally dead in their sins while they ÿremain
unbelievers, but Islam BEGAN as a heresy. Muslims are
consistently the most difficult of peoples to convert to Christ,
and this explains why.

                          THE MUSLIMS WAY TO ALLAH

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  #    [GOOD DEEDS]  [  5 PILLARS ]      [PROHIBITIONS]      #
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O  #                    X  X  X  X  X                    #  A
D  #                    X  X  X  X  X                    #  N
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                        5  4  3  2  1    (1) Belief    [Shahada]
                                          (2) Alms      [Zakat]
                                          (3) Fast      [Ramadan]
                                          (4) Pilgrimage [Mecca]
                                          (5) Prayer    [5 x a day]

The ÿritual prohibitions together with the 5 pillars and as ÿmany
good deeds as is possible do not guarentee that paradise will ÿbe

The ÿKoran ÿhas no assurance of a ‘heaven’. ÿIt relies ÿon ÿman’s
doing and all the failures associated with it.

How like the nominal christian who believes in a creed(1), ÿgives
to charity(2), ÿgoes to church, birth, ÿmarriage and death , with
the odd christmas and easter thrown in(4), ÿand prayer, ÿwell yes
if pushed or maybe every now and then at bedtime(5).


Christianity does not rely on MAN, ÿGod sent HIS SON an ÿatoining
sacrifice for our sins (1 John 4:10)

The GULF has been crossed by Jesus himself at Calvary and we can
have eternal life here and now, recieve it and be sure of it, ÿno
one can take it away Jesus promise “none shall pluck them from my

The KEYS may look the same but only JESUS fits, only JESUS is the
sinless, ÿÿspotless SON OF GOD.  ÿTHE GOD-MAN, God incarnate in
human flesh, JESUS is the only way.


“It ÿis commonplace today to speak of the battle of the ÿeighties
to be between Islam, Marxism and Third World Christianity.

Western ÿChristianity is on the whole too flabby to ÿdo ÿanything
about it. One of the clearest symptoms of this is the sad decline
in true spirituality amongst the majority of Western Christians.

We have neglected our prayer life; ÿwe have stopped listening ÿto
God; ÿwe have been caught by the covetous spirit of our ÿaffluent
society, ÿÿand worshipped the false god of materialism. ÿWe ÿhave
exchanged our knowledge of *Theos* (God) for heady disputes about
theological words, ÿor for religious or social activism. ÿWe have
forgotten how to be still before God, how to meditate, trapped as
we ÿare in the vortex of modern life. ÿWe have lost our sense ÿof
direction; ÿand, ÿconfused and bewildered, ÿwe know little of the
exhuberant ÿjoy ÿof celebration enjoyed by God’s people down ÿthe
centuries, even in tough and depressing situations.

There ÿis ÿlittle to attract the unbeliever in ÿthe ÿtraditional,
organized ÿChurch. ÿÿThe tragedy is that most people outside ÿthe
Church ÿtoday are hungry and thirsty for God or for some form ÿof
spiritual reality, but the Church as an institution has little to
offer in terms of living bread or the wine of the Spirit.

It ÿis hardly surprising, ÿtherefore, ÿthat a growing number ÿare
turning ÿto ÿthe ÿcults, ÿÿto eastern mysticism, ÿÿor ÿto ÿoccult
practices ÿin ÿpursuit of a basic spirituality that ÿthe ÿWestern
Church no longer seems to provoke.

From ÿDavid Watson’s foreword to ‘Celebration of Discipline’, ÿby
R. Foster

Just a note here: Muslims most emphatically do not
believe the same things as Christians, though they share some of
the same moral values…along with many other religions.

And even more emphatically, the Koran does NOT contain ANY of the
same books as the Bible.

Some of the historical figures from Scripture are mentioned in the
Koran, but their characters and significances are radically
altered, particularly the Person of Jesus Christ.

Islam is an anti-Christ system, plainly and simply. Jesus is the
Son of God. Islam explicitly denies the fact, and many others
which are absolutely essential. The question here is not what you
or I or anyone think about Jesus or about Muhammed or about
anything. It has to do with what God has revealed. There is no
way that one can be a Christian and admit the relative merit of a
seductive, satanic deception… which is precisely what Islam is.
If there are any doubts, read the Koran.

I ÿtoo ÿknow ÿmany Muslims personally, ÿfrom a ÿwide ÿvariety ÿof
backgrounds. Many are warm, hospital folks on personal terms.

But ÿdon’t be deceived by that which has deceived generations ÿof
their people. ÿStand firm under the Banner of Christ. ÿJesus died
on the Cross for YOU! Muhammed didn’t.

The ÿsimplest ÿway ÿto ÿdeal with this, ÿÿfor ÿanyone ÿwho ÿfeels
confused, ÿis to personally submit the matter to God, ÿthe God of
the Bible, ÿin prayer. ÿHe is Lord! ÿHe will clarify these points
very ÿsatisfactorily, ÿand in a personal, ÿloving, ÿÿand ÿutterly
convincing way, I assure you.


Some quotes from the KORAN concerning Jesus and Christianity:

“Those who say: ‘The Lord of Mercy has begotten a son,’ preach a
monstrous falsehood, ÿat which the very heavens might crack, the
earth break asunder, and the mountains crumble to dust. That they
should ascribe a son to the Merciful, when it does not become Him
to beget one!” 19:88.

“…of Jesus, who said to the Israelites: ‘I am sent forth to you
by Allah to confirm the Torah already revealed and to give news
of an apostle that will come after me whose name is Ahmed'” 61:6
(Note: “Ahmed” is another name of Muhammed’s, meaning “The
Praised One”).

“The Jews say Ezra is the son of Allah, while the Christians say
the Messiah is the son of Allah. Such are their assertions, by
which they imitate the infidels of old. Allah confound them! How
perverse they are! They worship their rabbis and their monks, and
the Messiah the son of Mary, as gods besides Allah; though they
were ordered to serve one God only. There is no god but Him” 9:30
(Note: The charge that Jews say Ezra is the son of Allah has no
known basis in Jewish religious tradition).

“To Moses We gave the Scriptures and after him We sent other
apostles. We gave Jesus the son of Mary veritable signs and
strengthened him with the Holy Spirit. Will you then scorn each
apostle whose message does not suit your fancies, charging some
with imposture and slaying others? They say: ‘Our hearts are
sealed.’ But Allah has cursed them for their unbelief. They have
but little faith. And now that a Book confirming their own has
come to them from Allah, they deny it, although they know it to
be the truth and have long prayed for elp against the
unbelievers. May Allah’s curse be upon the infidels!” 2:86.

“With those who said they were Christians We made a covenant
also, but they too have forgotten much of what they were
enjoined…People of the Book! Our apostle has come to reveal to
you much of what you have hidden of the Scriptures, and to
forgive you much. A light has come to you from Allah and a
glorious Book…Unbelivers are those who declare: ‘Allah is the
Messiah, the son of Mary'” 5:14-17

“Believers, take neither Jews nor Christians for your friends.
They are friends with one another. Whoever of you seeks their
friendship shall become one of their number. Allah does not guide
the wrongdoers” 5:51.

“Unbelievers are those who say: ‘Allah is the Messiah, the son of
Mary.’ For the Messiah himself said: ‘Children of Israel, serve
Allah, my Lord and your Lord.’ He that worships other gods
besides Allah shall be forbidden Paradise and shall be cast into
the fire of Hell. None shall help the evildoers. Unbelievers are
those that say: ‘Allah is one of three.’ There is but one God. If
they do not desist from so saying, those of them that disbelieve
shall be sternly punished. Will they not turn to Allah in
repentance and seek forgiveness of Him? He is forgiving and
merciful. The Messiah, the son of Mary, was no more than an
apostle…” 5:72-75.

* Origin: Trinity 2 – Faringdon, Oxfordshire  (511/113)

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