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Written by: Unknown    Posted on: 04/24/2003

Category: Cults / Sects / Non Christian Religions and Topics

Source: CCN

The ÿfollowing ÿcommentary was taken from the Christian_Net ÿecho (an international Fidonet bulletin board echo)



I wanted to contribute a response to your inquiry concerning the growth of Islam in Britain.

I am an American, currently resident in the UK, with professional research experience in matters involving the Middle East. Statistics clearly infer that over the past 20 years Islam has been the fastest growing religion in Britain.

The largest mosque in Western Europe is situated in London's Regent Park, and there is an Islamic university alongside. In 1945 there was one mosque in England, in 1950 there were 25, in 1960 there were 80, in 1976 there were 200, etc. Muslims here in Oxford were finally given permission to establish a mosque a few years ago, and it is located near where I live.

Within the past couple of years in one part of Birmingham one has been able to hear above the urban din the electrically amplified calls to prayer of a Muslim muezzin, just like in cities in N. Africa and the Middle East.

In one sense these facts are terribly disconcerting. When one passes through the English countryside it is the spires of the parish churches which are most prominent above all the villages, yet in recent years the abandonment of church buildings because of disuse has been a topic of much concern. One thinks of England, and one thinks of a *Christian* nation. The imprint of Christianity ÿis everywhere. ÿLast Saturday I attended a memorial service in the University Church for a don who died last ÿsummer, and ÿthe ÿparticular congregation was predominantly ÿagnostic ÿor atheistic, but ÿthe service itself was ÿChristian ÿthrough ÿand through...a tradition.

England is an Islamic target. During an international Islamic conference in London in the late 1970s the keynote speaker said, 'If we can win London for Islam, it won't be hard to win the whole Western world.' But all this evidence is only part of the picture. Muslims are not noticed proselytising here...but, then, Muslims do not generally proselytise the way evangelical Christians do. *Jihad* means 'struggle' rather more than 'war', and *influence* can be part of it.

If Muslims are able to induce ecumenical attitudes in Western Christians, it can prove advantageous for them. You may be sure you will not encounter any reciprocal fair-mindedness in Saudi Arabia, much less in Iran. The influence of the oil and markets of Muslim countries has been awesome. This has however shifted with developments in international affairs. Oil lost its sway. Terrorism went too far. Britain and the rest of the West shifted their perspectives considerably. It must also be said that the growth of Islam in Britain has mainly been due to large numbers of Muslims moving  here, rather than through many converts...though there have been, unhappily, conversions (Cat Stevens, the singer and composer, is a devout Muslim now).

Finally, if you are in Washington, DC, you should take note of the 160 ÿft. high minaret above the mosque of the Islamic Center on Massachusetts Ave. And consider also the alarming growth of the Black Muslims in our country, the USA, and their links to the most radical Islamic nations.

Read the Koran. 'Allah' is demonic, and has NOTHING to do with God. But Muslims in our midst are not to be feared or hated. We must prayerfully, confidently, show them the Love of Christ, and speak the Truth to them without compromise.


Greetings, I appreciated your words of encouragement and faith.

Islam ÿis a formidable seducing spirit and a murderous one in the world ÿtoday...and ÿno evidence is lacking in ÿsupport ÿof ÿthese conclusions. ÿI empathize with some of the testimonials of others which ÿpreceded my words about the threat of Islam to the UK; ÿÿI would ÿagree ÿwith ÿthem that encounters with ÿunbelievers ÿ(i.e. people who have no faith in any religion) ÿoften seem more common and ÿproblematic ÿthan confrontations with Muslim ÿproselytising, etc. ÿÿBut whatever Muslims may seem to have in common with us is attributable ÿto the fact that Muhammed selectively borrowed ÿhis values from Judeo-Christian revelation.

This ÿinfers ÿwhat it is that makes Islam one of ÿhistory's ÿmost evil systems: ÿmost of the other so-called 'great religions' ÿare not ÿknown to have originated amongst peoples who 'exchanged ÿthe truth ÿof ÿGod ÿfor a lie'; ÿthere's no evidence that ÿBuddha ÿor Confucius, ÿfor instance, ÿever knew the truth of God; ÿprimitive tribes around the planet have variously created and developed all manner of unusual and imaginative religious systems; but Muhammed KNEW Christians and Jews, ÿhe was also exposed to the Old and New Testaments, ÿand the religion satan spawned through him was, ÿÿin other words, a Judeo-Christian heresy from its inception.

The ÿspiritual ÿbondage ÿof Islam is ÿtremendously ÿsinister ÿand strong. ÿÿIslam ÿis ÿno ÿless ÿdevoted ÿto ÿworld ÿconquest ÿthan Communism. ÿÿAnd ÿIslam is very, ÿvery cruel. ÿAs ÿthe ÿhistorian Toynbee ÿonce ÿput it, ÿwhile believers in Jesus and Buddha ÿhave sometimes ÿwaged ÿmurderous, ÿunjust wars in the names ÿof ÿtheir religions, ÿwhen they did it they were not following the examples of the founders of their respective faiths; ÿbut, ÿhe said, ÿwhen Muslims ÿdo ÿit they follow the example of Muhammed ÿhimself...he wiped out whole communities of peoples who resisted him, allowing debased ÿsensuality, ÿpillage and slave-taking as enticements ÿto his followers.

All unbelievers are equally dead in their sins while they ÿremain unbelievers, but Islam BEGAN as a heresy. Muslims are consistently the most difficult of peoples to convert to Christ, and this explains why.

                                                    THE MUSLIMS WAY TO ALLAH

# #    ------------------------------------------------------####   #    [GOOD DEEDS]  [  5 PILLARS ]      [PROHIBITIONS]      #   #    ------------------------------------------------------#     #                    X  X  X  X  X                    #      #                    X  X  X  X  X                    #  G  #                    X  X  X  X  X                    #  M O  #                    X  X  X  X  X                    #  A D  #                    X  X  X  X  X                    #  N     #                  X  X  X  X  X                  #     #                  X  X  X  X  X                  #     #                  X  X  X  X  X                  #     #                  X  X  X  X  X                  #       #                  X  X  X  X  X                  #       ###################################################                         5  4  3  2  1    (1) Belief    [Shahada]                                           (2) Alms      [Zakat]                                           (3) Fast      [Ramadan]                                           (4) Pilgrimage [Mecca]                                           (5) Prayer    [5 x a day]

The ÿritual prohibitions together with the 5 pillars and as ÿmany good deeds as is possible do not guarentee that paradise will ÿbe attained.

The ÿKoran ÿhas no assurance of a 'heaven'. ÿIt relies ÿon ÿman's doing and all the failures associated with it.

How like the nominal christian who believes in a creed(1), ÿgives to charity(2), ÿgoes to church, birth, ÿmarriage and death , with the odd christmas and easter thrown in(4), ÿand prayer, ÿwell yes if pushed or maybe every now and then at bedtime(5).


Christianity does not rely on MAN, ÿGod sent HIS SON an ÿatoining sacrifice for our sins (1 John 4:10)

The GULF has been crossed by Jesus himself at Calvary and we can have eternal life here and now, recieve it and be sure of it, ÿno one can take it away Jesus promise "none shall pluck them from my hand"

The KEYS may look the same but only JESUS fits, only JESUS is the sinless, ÿÿspotless SON OF GOD.  ÿTHE GOD-MAN, God incarnate in human flesh, JESUS is the only way.


"It ÿis commonplace today to speak of the battle of the ÿeighties to be between Islam, Marxism and Third World Christianity.

Western ÿChristianity is on the whole too flabby to ÿdo ÿanything about it. One of the clearest symptoms of this is the sad decline in true spirituality amongst the majority of Western Christians.

We have neglected our prayer life; ÿwe have stopped listening ÿto God; ÿwe have been caught by the covetous spirit of our ÿaffluent society, ÿÿand worshipped the false god of materialism. ÿWe ÿhave exchanged our knowledge of *Theos* (God) for heady disputes about theological words, ÿor for religious or social activism. ÿWe have forgotten how to be still before God, how to meditate, trapped as we ÿare in the vortex of modern life. ÿWe have lost our sense ÿof direction; ÿand, ÿconfused and bewildered, ÿwe know little of the exhuberant ÿjoy ÿof celebration enjoyed by God's people down ÿthe centuries, even in tough and depressing situations.

There ÿis ÿlittle to attract the unbeliever in ÿthe ÿtraditional, organized ÿChurch. ÿÿThe tragedy is that most people outside ÿthe Church ÿtoday are hungry and thirsty for God or for some form ÿof spiritual reality, but the Church as an institution has little to offer in terms of living bread or the wine of the Spirit.

It ÿis hardly surprising, ÿtherefore, ÿthat a growing number ÿare turning ÿto ÿthe ÿcults, ÿÿto eastern mysticism, ÿÿor ÿto ÿoccult practices ÿin ÿpursuit of a basic spirituality that ÿthe ÿWestern Church no longer seems to provoke.

From ÿDavid Watson's foreword to 'Celebration of Discipline', ÿby R. Foster

Just a note here: Muslims most emphatically do not believe the same things as Christians, though they share some of the same moral values...along with many other religions.

And even more emphatically, the Koran does NOT contain ANY of the same books as the Bible.

Some of the historical figures from Scripture are mentioned in the Koran, but their characters and significances are radically altered, particularly the Person of Jesus Christ.

Islam is an anti-Christ system, plainly and simply. Jesus is the Son of God. Islam explicitly denies the fact, and many others which are absolutely essential. The question here is not what you or I or anyone think about Jesus or about Muhammed or about anything. It has to do with what God has revealed. There is no way that one can be a Christian and admit the relative merit of a seductive, satanic deception... which is precisely what Islam is. If there are any doubts, read the Koran.

I ÿtoo ÿknow ÿmany Muslims personally, ÿfrom a ÿwide ÿvariety ÿof backgrounds. Many are warm, hospital folks on personal terms.

But ÿdon't be deceived by that which has deceived generations ÿof their people. ÿStand firm under the Banner of Christ. ÿJesus died on the Cross for YOU! Muhammed didn't.

The ÿsimplest ÿway ÿto ÿdeal with this, ÿÿfor ÿanyone ÿwho ÿfeels confused, ÿis to personally submit the matter to God, ÿthe God of the Bible, ÿin prayer. ÿHe is Lord! ÿHe will clarify these points very ÿsatisfactorily, ÿand in a personal, ÿloving, ÿÿand ÿutterly convincing way, I assure you.


Some quotes from the KORAN concerning Jesus and Christianity:

"Those who say: 'The Lord of Mercy has begotten a son,' preach a monstrous falsehood, ÿat which the very heavens might crack, the earth break asunder, and the mountains crumble to dust. That they should ascribe a son to the Merciful, when it does not become Him to beget one!" 19:88.

"...of Jesus, who said to the Israelites: 'I am sent forth to you by Allah to confirm the Torah already revealed and to give news of an apostle that will come after me whose name is Ahmed'" 61:6 (Note: "Ahmed" is another name of Muhammed's, meaning "The Praised One").

"The Jews say Ezra is the son of Allah, while the Christians say the Messiah is the son of Allah. Such are their assertions, by which they imitate the infidels of old. Allah confound them! How perverse they are! They worship their rabbis and their monks, and the Messiah the son of Mary, as gods besides Allah; though they were ordered to serve one God only. There is no god but Him" 9:30 (Note: The charge that Jews say Ezra is the son of Allah has no known basis in Jewish religious tradition).

"To Moses We gave the Scriptures and after him We sent other apostles. We gave Jesus the son of Mary veritable signs and strengthened him with the Holy Spirit. Will you then scorn each apostle whose message does not suit your fancies, charging some with imposture and slaying others? They say: 'Our hearts are sealed.' But Allah has cursed them for their unbelief. They have but little faith. And now that a Book confirming their own has come to them from Allah, they deny it, although they know it to be the truth and have long prayed for elp against the unbelievers. May Allah's curse be upon the infidels!" 2:86.

"With those who said they were Christians We made a covenant also, but they too have forgotten much of what they were enjoined...People of the Book! Our apostle has come to reveal to you much of what you have hidden of the Scriptures, and to forgive you much. A light has come to you from Allah and a glorious Book...Unbelivers are those who declare: 'Allah is the Messiah, the son of Mary'" 5:14-17

"Believers, take neither Jews nor Christians for your friends. They are friends with one another. Whoever of you seeks their friendship shall become one of their number. Allah does not guide the wrongdoers" 5:51.

"Unbelievers are those who say: 'Allah is the Messiah, the son of Mary.' For the Messiah himself said: 'Children of Israel, serve Allah, my Lord and your Lord.' He that worships other gods besides Allah shall be forbidden Paradise and shall be cast into the fire of Hell. None shall help the evildoers. Unbelievers are those that say: 'Allah is one of three.' There is but one God. If they do not desist from so saying, those of them that disbelieve shall be sternly punished. Will they not turn to Allah in repentance and seek forgiveness of Him? He is forgiving and merciful. The Messiah, the son of Mary, was no more than an apostle..." 5:72-75.

* Origin: Trinity 2 - Faringdon, Oxfordshire  (511/113)

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